darkwheeldarkwheelRaxxla would logically be permit-locked with the Pilot's Federation controlling access through hyperdrive navigation software as the in-universe gating mechanism.
Original theorist: Thatchinho -- View original post
Hypothesis that mission chains themselves form breadcrumb trail eventually leading to the gateway location. Focuses investigation on Naits, Mariyacoch, and Ticushpakhi systems where trust-building missions concentrated.
Week 30 year 3301 - The Quest To Find Raxxla This week has been filled with more excitement than on any other missions prior to the quest. I've lost Ryath twice trying to coax SAP 8 Core Container from Dark Wheel ships, which btw doesn't seem to have to be Dark Wheel ships for the mission to accept the stolen SAP 8 Core Containers. The missions "The Silent Song Of The Spheres" and "Obfuscated In The Outer Rim" have not yielded additional clues, even though I have seen deliveries from and to the same system/station/faction more than once, albeit very few. I'll continue to take the missions, even the "Discrete Redistribution Agent Desired" mission that at the moment has a very high price. Strangely, I've only seen the mission "Dark Wheel Seeks Diplomats For Discreet Delivery" once. I'll g...
Hypothesis that achieving Triple Elite (Pilot, Combat, Trade, Exploration) status may be necessary to trigger Dark Wheel missions or obtain Raxxla-related information.
Maybe we need to be triple elite to get a reaction from the missions or Dark Wheel and complete all the missions then see what happens.
Direct quote from The Dark Wheel PDF: 'Unless you get there, unless you become elite, you'll never get to Raxxla.' Establishes Elite rank as a potential access requirement.
A combat rank of elite? I thought those missions were changed to lock to exploration elites? Click to expand... Not talking about the missions, this quote from http://www.abandonia.com/files/extras/29369_the Dark Wheel.pdf "One thing's for sure," Rafe went on drily. "Unless you get there, unless you become elite, you'll never get to Raxxla."
Raxxla findable by everyone without Elite rank requirement; findable entirely with in-game tools; not in permit-locked systems; not a USS; will be obvious with all puzzle pieces; can be found by chance by solo players.
Hi everyone, hi The Black. I read that tonight very carefully and the whole. Very interesting quest and method. I think the method is the right one. Brute force method, here, wouldn't be doable, which mean that that quest should be longer than expected. Some thoughts about the "Dark Wheel" missions (sorry for the followed words, I'll quote Drew Wagar from memory, I have no links, but I guess Drew could confirm). 1 Drew said few times (the most recent was when he was a guest the BroCast of Josh Hawkins, a CoR was also guested by Josh but I don't remember who) that Raxxla could be found by everyone in the game, which mean that is not necessary to be Elite to find evidences or clues, nor having Horizon. Then, Raxxla is not settle on a planet, it must be in space. 2 He also said that it ...
Hypothesis that Raxxla could be mobile like Jacques Station, potentially hiding 100+ kls away from jump-in points and moving at regular intervals, explaining why it hasn't been found despite extensive searching.
Maybe the exploration improvements in Beyond will bring some form of radio astronomy to the game - then they'd definitely have a reason for adding Cass A. Just for the record, I'm placing my bet (based on absolutely no logical thought or reasoning) on Raxxla being located in the NGC 3603 star forming region. It's 20kLY from Sol and currently permit locked. Click to expand... That is the penultimate waypoint of my current expedition ( https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/364376-Journal-The-Aronnax-Expedition ). At my current rate of progress, I might get there at some point in January. So far I've not been finding anything 'alien' and no signs of spacefaring activity (e.g. no signal sources). Plenty of Earth-like and Ammonia Worlds and green systems and some interesting vistas,...
Theory that Raxxla is intentionally placed/configured so that you must know both where it is and how to get there before finding it - won't be discovered by accident.
Maybe the exploration improvements in Beyond will bring some form of radio astronomy to the game - then they'd definitely have a reason for adding Cass A. Just for the record, I'm placing my bet (based on absolutely no logical thought or reasoning) on Raxxla being located in the NGC 3603 star forming region. It's 20kLY from Sol and currently permit locked. Click to expand... That is the penultimate waypoint of my current expedition ( https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/364376-Journal-The-Aronnax-Expedition ). At my current rate of progress, I might get there at some point in January. So far I've not been finding anything 'alien' and no signs of spacefaring activity (e.g. no signal sources). Plenty of Earth-like and Ammonia Worlds and green systems and some interesting vistas,...
Speculates that rank progression in Elite Dangerous represents a 'personal journey' mentioned by MB and could be the unlock mechanism for Raxxla access.
Guess a black hole can be considered a place that isn't a place. The Dark Wheel (which isn't canon) says that people is living on Raxxla already, that would probably be hard to do in a black hole, unless of course they are cylons and have placed their base right next to the event horizon. And when is a door also a key? I know of a few black holes on the outer rim, I'll be sure to check them out, fortunately CMDR Flirble Rasok is a triple. The personal journey which have been mentioned by MB is puzzling, I can only think of rank as something personal in ED so that must unlock something. [tinfoil] What if Raxxla is hidden in witchspace and access can be made using a Thargoid heart...nah, hearts are too recent [/tinfoil]
Theory that 'a place that isn't a place' suggests Raxxla is mobile/not IN place. 'A door that is also a key' paired with 'personal journey' concept suggests Raxxla requires conceptual doorway/evolution through commander progression to unlock access via permit or cipher.
My tinfoil: A place that isn't a place - this allows for Raxxla to be mobile. A place that isn't IN place, so to speak. A door that is also a key - when coupled with the 'personal journey' concept, this could be referring to the Cmdr making some kind of jump/transition/evolution through a conceptual doorway, which then unlocks access to Raxxla. Unlocking could be permit-related or a code/cipher of some kind.
Theory exploring whether Raxxla requires being in the right place AND time (4th dimensional coordinate), suggesting a specific temporal element to discovering Raxxla.
Tbh I've been working on various tinfoiled ideas about Raxxla since launch. I have a horrible feeling it's a metaphor for our ships - a place that's not a place(because it's a ship) and which has an FSD that is both a door and key (to accessing witchspace) and is capable of taking us to anyplace in the galaxy. I'm also currently putting a lot of time into figuring out if the place that's not a place is a reference to the "time" element of 4 dimensional space, as that's a coordinate value for a "place" that often goes overlooked. And now I've written this, I'm wondering if it's a case of being in the right place and time, with a frame shift drive. Seriously, raxxla is like some horrific theoretical fractal set - the closer you look the more and more infinite it becomes >.<
Theory linking MB's emphasis on 'personal journey' with progression through The Dark Wheel, permits, and ranks. Suggests Shinrarta is first step, DW reputation is second step, with additional progression required.
I'll still stick to the tiny little bit ovious and the personal journey. MB's words. So ? Obvious and personal: The DW and gaining permits, ranks and rep. (Rank is obviously necessary to enter Shinrarta... first step in the quest. Rep with the DW, second step. Then? Well, just look at my signature [haha]) Warning, don't read if you hate file digging: Spoiler Rogue planet . . X (= exotic) so it is or may appear when "de-obfuscated" in the GalMap and its "star" class is "X" meaning "exotic"
Raxxla may be mobile or location-specific per commander to prevent simple discovery. 'A door that is also a key' could describe a conceptual transition/evolution unlocking access via permit or cipher.
My tinfoil: A place that isn't a place - this allows for Raxxla to be mobile. A place that isn't IN place, so to speak. A door that is also a key - when coupled with the 'personal journey' concept, this could be referring to the Cmdr making some kind of jump/transition/evolution through a conceptual doorway, which then unlocks access to Raxxla. Unlocking could be permit-related or a code/cipher of some kind. Click to expand... I've been keen on the mobile Raxxla idea for a while - it'd provide a mechanism for dealing with the situation if anyone does find it. It would also explain the personal journey part - if it moves when a cmdr finds it then everyone would need to find it individually. (Or possibly it's in a different place for every cmdr to begin with.) For the door that's also ...
Analyzes that Raxxla would logically be permit-locked, with the Pilot's Federation controlling permit locks through hyperdrive navigation software as in-universe mechanism.
If we're getting meta about it: Spoiler Got to assume Raxxla is likely to be end-game content. They've got to do something mind-blowing with it after all these years, they can't just do a little beige planet with a little ruin on it and say "here you go, Raxxla." would be something of an anticlimax, and really that's all the game currently can do. (assuming it's a planet, lol). I'm assuming they're waiting until Space Legs and Atmo-Planets will allow you land on and walk around on Raxxla - or whatever future game-upgrades they will end up making (just using space legs and atmo as examples of what is pencilled in for the future). If it does contain a gateway or something "to other universes" that would be an amazing way to finish the 10-year story run, having the "quest for Raxxla" ...
Porta (Greek for door) in 39 Tauri system connects to the 'door that's also the key' concept. Porta orbital is near aD pontes paradise destination with 150 million population, potentially triggereable with specific cargo and elite pilot status.
I am practically new to this and it might have been searched before in previous posts i but what if we stick to the "A door thats also the key"? It might be nothing but Porta is the Greek word for DOOR and Porta orbital in 39 Tauri is around aD pontes which is described as "a paradise , The Planet of the Zodiac , and a holiday destination "..... with population of 150 million. This may be stupid but some secrets are hidden under our noses sometimes. Maybe a Triple elite pilot getting there with some specific cargo could trigger some sort of interaction?...... i will give it a try later this week.
Confirmed that Shinrarta Dezra system access is granted upon achieving Elite rank in any of four disciplines (Combat, Trade, Exploration, CQC), but Founders World planet itself remains inaccessible pending atmospheric landing implementation.
If founders world can only be accessed by founders it might not be eligale since/if something said you can be either founder or elite. Or was that just speculation on peoples part? Or can you access founders at tripple elite? That would be nice. I hate permanently cut off content. Click to expand... You can access the Founders World by reaching Elite in any of the four disciplines (Combat, Trade, Exploration, CQC).
Proposes that accessing Raxxla requires each commander to satisfy specific variable conditions, potentially including triple elite rank, Dark Wheel faction alliance, and maximum Fed/Imp ranks due to possible inter-faction conspiracy.
I'll do you one better. WHY is Raxxla?! Anyway, I was watching one of the links in the original post of this thread and the guy said it's a journey every commander will have to take themselves. What if there are a number of variables each persons will need to make true for any single person to get near Raxxla? There are a few obvious ones that won't hurt to do, e.g. triple elite, allied with TDW, max rank with Feds and Imps (because it could be an inter-faction conspiracy). Thoughts? Click to expand... Relly dunno it's about 3E/4E and all that - the same as mostly every other narrative that includes searching for something outthere in the void (like the Fromidine rift, 4 example). Might need to be allied with DW faction (and at least one E in that case). Main question is, at least ...
Database confirmation that Raxxla has been in-game from the outset, whereas CQC was added later, making all-elite-ranks theory unlikely.
What do you think of the theory that you only get access to Raxxla if you have all four elite ranks? Combat - Trade - Explorer - CQC http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Pilots_Federation#Ranks Because: Raxxla itself is a feudal world with reptile race with higher technology level than humans. Raxxlans were extremely hostile to every other race. War was what they loved and aimed for. Raxxla itself is not hard to find. Raxxlans will attack without hesitation giving out their location. The closer you get more aggressive they become. Click to expand... Unlikely, since DB said Raxxla has been in-game from the outset, whereas I think CQC came later.
Theory proposing that all four elite ranks (Combat, Trade, Explorer, CQC) are required to access Raxxla, based on lore parallels with hostile Raxxlan faction preferring warfare.
What do you think of the theory that you only get access to Raxxla if you have all four elite ranks? Combat - Trade - Explorer - CQC http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Pilots_Federation#Ranks Because: Raxxla itself is a feudal world with reptile race with higher technology level than humans. Raxxlans were extremely hostile to every other race. War was what they loved and aimed for. Raxxla itself is not hard to find. Raxxlans will attack without hesitation giving out their location. The closer you get more aggressive they become.
Hypothesis that Raxxla may be permit-locked or became accessible only after Horizons expansion with surface sites, not requiring elite ranks but specific discovered mechanics.
Unlikely, since DB said Raxxla has been in-game from the outset, whereas I think CQC came later. Click to expand... It could've been ingame but without means to access it, like, it can be a surface site, so it became accessable only after Horizons. Or permit-locked, which is more likely IMO. Still i don't think 3E/4E ranks are requiered, the way it is spelled in CODEX quest to find Raxxla/DarkWheel is not a series of missions, but more like a series of things you need to do without instructions. Also, i guess Raxxla and DW appearing in CODEX this path is some kind of a proof that the way to access it is finally implemented. Now looking at Fluk memorial, a listening post in heart nebula. Knowing how those Formidine rift LPs were broadcasting their message only nce a day, have anyone a...
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