darkwheeldarkwheelSystematic investigation of visual anomalies observed at extremely large red supergiants (Antares, Rho Cassiopeiae), including visual obfuscation effects and black disk phenomena at massive stars.
Original theorist: Han_Zen -- View original post
A visual black disk anomaly has been observed at both Antares and Rho Cassiopeiae, both extremely large stars (380+ solar radii). The anomaly persists across multiple graphics configurations and VR, suggesting it's a genuine game element rather than a bug.
-snip- Click to expand... Hey Han, I believe that's a bug. I've had it happen at Rho Cassiopeiae, too.
The black disk anomaly appears specifically at very large stars: Antares (380 solar radii) and Rho Cassiopeiae (similar size), but not at Alpha Cygni (116 solar radii). This suggests a size threshold above which the anomaly manifests.
Weird, perhaps if it is a bug it may have re-emerged because of the lighting overhaul. Have you tested this with any other large stars? Click to expand... It did not happen at Alpha Cygni. That one is only 116 solar radi, though. Antares is 380 solar radi. Almost the size of Rho Cass.
Tested visual obfuscation effect at multiple red supergiants (Antares, Rasalgethi, Betelgeuse). Concluded the phenomenon is a visual bug rather than intentional feature, occurring consistently across different red supergiants.
I don't know if we're still on the Antares thing, but I did some Extremely Rigorous Science and I believe it's just a visual bug: https://gfycat.com/WigglyCommonBrontosaurus I'm heading to Rasalgethi, another red supergiant, to see whether it occurs here too. Edit: Can confirm it happens at Rasalgethi too: https://i.Please use another image host/LgONE5i.jpg
Documented unusual visual effect at Antares: star obscured in cockpit view, effect follows pilot's line of sight, persists at 85,565ls+ distance, and lighting does not originate from star's actual position (60° offset increasing/decreasing non-linearly from 38,000ls). Suggests either active obfuscation or ship/Remlock mask effect.
- The obfuscated area is not fixed on windshield, it follows your view. - The cockpit and ship is litt by the starlight, even when the star is totally black. - The effect is the same from all directions and does not seem to be limited in distance outward from the star. - The effect is the same in external camera and when the ship is without power. If this is active obfuscation(not a bug), it's either something that 'affects the pilots eyes' or it's the ship(and Remlock mask) that does it. There are a few Galnet articles that may hint that this may be something real: https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/2d0472c6f8e7eee1966acb1f542cfb6a6689f379 https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/cf45ee72bfc41c59770ace38773cca30c44f214a https://community.elitedangerous.co...
Confirms a visual anomaly occurs at Rasalgethi (red supergiant) where stellar features like gas shells visible to 90 AU appear as 'normal' standard stars in-game, supporting hypothesis that variable stars are either omitted or incorrectly implemented.
I'm heading to Rasalgethi, another red supergiant, to see whether it occurs here too. Edit: Can confirm it happens at Rasalgethi too: https://i.Please use another image host/LgONE5i.jpg Click to expand... Probably OT, but was there anything odd about Rasalgethi that you noticed when you were there? It should be a semi-variable star, with stellar gas shells visible out to about 90 AU. If it just looked "normal", then that is another tick for the "Variable stars are either omitted or implemented as standard stars" hypothesis that I'm developing...
Investigation into whether semi-variable stars like Rasalgethi are implemented as standard stars in-game or omitted entirely. Observable behavior at distance suggests variable star mechanics may not be properly rendered.
Probably OT, but was there anything odd about Rasalgethi that you noticed when you were there? It should be a semi-variable star, with stellar gas shells visible out to about 90 AU. If it just looked "normal", then that is another tick for the "Variable stars are either omitted or implemented as standard stars" hypothesis that I'm developing... Click to expand... I didn't see anything out of the ordinary, aside from the aforementioned issue with pop-in at 96KLs. Definitely nothing to indicate any semblance of variability, but to be completely honest I also wasn't looking for that kind of behavior specifically, so there's a chance I missed it.
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