darkwheeldarkwheelProposes Raxxla as a Guardian-built advanced structure rather than a homeworld, potentially created by Exiles or colonists from three Arks. Explores connections between three Guardian outpost regions and three Ark destinations with implications for Raxxla's location and accessibility.
Original theorist: Han_Zen -- View original post
Proposes Raxxla could be any undiscovered Guardian world, or all Guardian sites connected via mechanism to jump between them. Suggests network still functional.
Dammit, I was going to ask Acid for the rationale, but I'll just have to respond to this instead! I'm not sure it is logical for the Guardians homeworld to be Raxxla. In the end the homeworld was pretty much religous/anti-tech and that's coming from a general tech level that was ahead of ours but not by a huge amount. That's not Raxxla. Potentially the Exiles could have returned to the homeworld after the main line of Guardian society was wiped out and continued their accelerating advancement there. It's not an unlikely scenario that they would have returned to the homeworld of their species IMHO btw - it's just there's nothing lore wise at present to indicate that it happened. Also, wasn't it fossils that was found on Mars rather than an artefact? My understanding is that the (still u...
Argues Raxxla more likely Guardian-built advanced structure from their last days rather than homeworld. Proposes Exiles may have used it to escape, or colonists from three Arks built it.
It would be logical for Raxxla to be the Guardian homeworld. They are the only source of ancient alien technology that we know of (though I'm still convinced there will be no gateway to other universes when it's finally found). The way rumours work it might be in ED that a Guardian site was found and then it got twisted into "Raxxla", so since an alien artefact was found on Mars, then perhaps Triton as another possibility? Click to expand... If Raxxla is connected to the Guardians, I don't think it's their home world. I don't have any rational explanation for this. Raxxla just feels more like a far away place where the Guardians built an advanced structure, in their last days. Perhaps the exiles used it to escape? Perhaps it was built by colonists from one of the three Arks? We ha...
Proposes three Guardian outpost regions (Conflux, Hawkin's Gap, Eafots) connected to three Arks. Calculates ~20,000 year travel time. Suggests arrivals occurred after Guardian fall, but network still functional.
It would be logical for Raxxla to be the Guardian homeworld. They are the only source of ancient alien technology that we know of (though I'm still convinced there will be no gateway to other universes when it's finally found). The way rumours work it might be in ED that a Guardian site was found and then it got twisted into "Raxxla", so since an alien artefact was found on Mars, then perhaps Triton as another possibility? Click to expand... If Raxxla is connected to the Guardians, I don't think it's their home world. I don't have any rational explanation for this. Raxxla just feels more like a far away place where the Guardians built an advanced structure, in their last days. Perhaps the exiles used it to escape? Perhaps it was built by colonists from one of the three Arks? We ha...
Details Guardian Ark deployment timeline: population pressure drove initial launches, FTL comms developed in transit, hyperspace developed after colonization. Argues Arks went to closest suitable planets near homeworld.
If Raxxla is connected to the Guardians, I don't think it's their home world. I don't have any rational explanation for this. Raxxla just feels more like a far away place where the Guardians built an advanced structure, in their last days. Perhaps the exiles used it to escape? Perhaps it was built by colonists from one of the three Arks? We have three Guardian outpost regions, that are in the vicinity of Conflux, Hawkin's gap and Eafots. If these are connected to the three Ark's it means that they would have traveled for approximately 20,000 years. They may have arrived well after the fall of the Guardian bubble. The network would still have been functioning though(it still is). They would have had access to all information about potential threats and to all new technology developed i...
Concludes only plausible Guardian-Raxxla connection is if Exiles built Raxxla long after their exile, but disassociates Arks from known outpost regions based on lore.
If Raxxla is connected to the Guardians, I don't think it's their home world. I don't have any rational explanation for this. Raxxla just feels more like a far away place where the Guardians built an advanced structure, in their last days. Perhaps the exiles used it to escape? Perhaps it was built by colonists from one of the three Arks? We have three Guardian outpost regions, that are in the vicinity of Conflux, Hawkin's gap and Eafots. If these are connected to the three Ark's it means that they would have traveled for approximately 20,000 years. They may have arrived well after the fall of the Guardian bubble. The network would still have been functioning though(it still is). They would have had access to all information about potential threats and to all new technology developed i...
Theory that Raxxla's technology may be Guardian in nature, potentially guarding access to other universes or the Thargoid home universe via alien gateways found there.
If Raxxla still existed the Thargoids would never even be in our space. Something catastrophic must have happened to their world. Click to expand... If that is the case, shouldn't mean we can't still find it (or what is left of it) though. Not even sure there is a Thargoid connection to Raxxla, isn't the gateway(s) to other universes there just referred to as being "alien"? I believe Soontill is the only planet with a canon connection to Thargoids (from And Here the Wheel). Assuming that is still canon of course. And the station at Peregrina (from Out of the Darkness). Oh, and Polaris I guess too, although even that has a big question mark over it with the canon overhaul. Perhaps the technology on Raxxla was Guardian in nature - "guarding" access to the other universes or perhaps thei...
Proposes that a small group of Guardians may have created a last-minute gate to escape the Constructs, and that Constructs may have followed them beyond known space, explaining why Constructs haven't been encountered elsewhere.
The idea of some Guardians making a last-minute gate to escape is a very romantic notion and it's something that might be very plausible. I don't think it currently fits with the uncovered text, but who knows, maybe the Constructs didn't get them all and a small group did escape via a gateway. Maybe the Constructs followed them and that's why we haven't yet (that we know of) run into the Constructs out there. Spoiler 10/28: "I believe the Constructs determined that even if peace was restored the Guardians would never be able to transcend their violent natures. I believe they decided that the only way to preclude further violence – while giving their own burgeoning society the best possible chance of survival – was to destroy what remained of the Guardians’ civilisation. By this time, t...
Guardians' artifact bases, network portals, and crystal research may connect to Halsey's mysterious caretakers and Mars relic implant. Guardians could have placed critical items on hidden planet undetectable by normal scanning methods.
I think the most likely connection are the Guardians. They have bases with artefacts, network portals and seem to be in to crystalls. They are probably in some way connected to Halsey’s caretakers(constructs) and the Mars relic(implant). If there is a planet out there, hidden from normal detection methods, they may well have putten something important there. Click to expand... There’s certainly more going on with the Guardians story then goes out via Galnet. The big question for me at the moment is who permit locked the core of what was the main Guardian bubble, when did they do it, and why.
Guardian sites match description of Raxxla's alien gateway construct. Guardian installations provide information, technology, and relics. Their network could represent 'other universes' or virtual universes referenced in Raxxla lore.
Guardian ship or station maybe? Someone mentioned Guardian ship blueprints a while ago. Dont see that it could be revant to Raxxla Click to expand... It's probably not, but only because it's a different story segment. The Guardian sites that have been found fits very well with the description "on Raxxla there's an alien construct that's a gateway to other Universes, and all that's in those Universes in the way of bounty, and treasures, and aliens, and life…" They are alien constructs that gives us information, technology and relics. Calling their network 'other universes' may be a stretch, but virtual universes may be valid.
Theory that Guardians built the gateway to escape Thargoid conflict and may have evacuated to Andromeda galaxy, explaining why only ruins remain.
Raxxla Origins Are the Guardians waving to us from the Andromeda galaxy? Who built the gateway? An Alien race obviously. The Thargoids? I don't think so, legend tells us they found it and kept it's secret safe. The Guardians? Well they're certainly alien, and they may have had a very good reason for building it; to escape the Thargoid enemy that was wiping them out. So did they escape to another galaxy, and that't why we're only seeing ruins now and maybe a Guardian station/mega-ship, if the new trailer can be believed. Let's forget the Guardians for a (little) bit. Where would an alien race build a gateway? One guess is in their home world system for easy travel and perhaps even mass evacuation. So one would search for an Alien home world, but where to search for such a place? I had a...
Guardians reached mind/machine singularity via brain implants, were exiled from mainstream society, and largely destroyed themselves in civil war before final elimination.
Heading out shortly, so only a quick reply for the moment. The centre of Guardian space seems to be the Regor sector which is permit locked. Thargoids weren't wiping the Guardians out. The Guardians partially retreated from disputed territory while attempting to negotiate, and then gathered their forces and beat the Thargoids (well the Thargoids which were in that area of space, anyway). (Incidentally, that there had been a territorial cross-over was worked out well before it was stated in the Guardian logs which came in 3.0) Some Guardians were effectively reaching the mind/machine Singularity via the use of brain implants but were exiled from mainstream Guardian society. Their fate is unkown. The rest of the Guardians largely wiped each other out in a civil war, and then were finishe...
Guardian Beacons provide 'Ancient Key' collectible and refer to Guardian AI as 'Constructs'. Deliberate word choices by Frontier (key, construct) may hint at Raxxla connection, possibly as Guardian homeworld or access mechanism.
Still couldn't help but immediately think of Raxxla when those Guardian Beacons gave a "Ancient Key". Click to expand... It's interesting. Using the word 'key' for this thing and calling the Guardian AI 'Constucts', are deliberate choices from FD. It could be a deliberate hint or a deliberate decoy. We don't know? Click to expand... Could be one of the most compelling arguments I've seen in a while. Who knows? Perhaps Raxxla is the Guardian's home world?
Analysis suggesting Guardians' homeworld became power base for emerging religion in their latter days. Possibility that Raxxla myth represents distortion of Guardian religious beliefs, or became Raxxla post-Guardian extinction via AI or technophile faction actions.
Could be one of the most compelling arguments I've seen in a while. Who knows? Perhaps Raxxla is the Guardian's home world? Click to expand... Hmm... in their latter days their homeworld became the power base for their emerging religion. It wasn't completely anti-technology, but probably sufficiently so for it very unlikely for it to be Raxxla as we know it. Having said that, there's no reason why it may not have become Raxxla after the mainstream Guardians were wiped out - there's not telling what might of been done subsequently by their AI, or by the technophile section of their society which was exiled in their first civil war. Also, it's always possible that the Raxxla myth is a distortion of some of their religious beliefs. We're light on details other than it was centred around ...
Raxxla theorized as Ancient Guardian structure resembling key-shaped ruins, located on asteroid orbiting neutron or white dwarf star within cosmic mist/nebula, protected by stellar radiation hazard.
I believe that is no coincidence. I tell you what Raxxla is and where it will be found, just listen. Raxxla is nothing else than an ancient Guardian outpost in one of the outermost white dwarf or neutron star systems. It looks exactly like one of the well known ancient ruins sites One of those that look like a huge key from above. It is really easy to see the key in that structure.. By the way, it is placed on a rather tiny rock that orbits directly through the dwarf/neutron stars beams, so it is hidden i1n one of those new upcoming mists/nebulaes and it will be tricky to approach without getting blown up. Thats how FDev thinks thats appropriate for Raxxla. By the way.. it has to be there in the mists of a neutron star, because it is a giant supercharging slingshot machine to the next ...
Guardian structure from current content contains door-lock-key mechanism matching Raxxla clue 'place that is not a place, door that is also the key,' suggesting Guardian connection.
"Door that is also the key" - door with the lock is the key to unlock another door. Last part of the above sentence is a part of Guardians content right now, have no idea how to correlate it with Raxxla. Strange coincidence, just remembered Raxxla description as soon as I saw it at the structure.
The black portions of the Raxxla codex icon match Guardian beacon shapes. When six Guardian beacons open, they form six 'bridges' with an Ancient Key at center. Theory: six beacons pointing toward one target system could reveal Raxxla's location.
I noticed something about the Codex icon for Raxxla. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net..._Beacon.png/revision/latest?cb=20180826172814 To me, the shape of the guardian beacon, linked above, looks similar to the black portions of the Raxxla icon. http://remlok-industries.fr/wp-cont...D-Guardian-Beacon-Ancient-Key-Asp-768x432.jpg Now, when activated and open, looking from above, they make 6 "bridges", with an 'Ancient Key" being in the center. What if 6 Guardian Beacons are pointing to a particular system? It could be a mere coincidence, but thought I'd share in case this theory has not been brought up. Sorry for linking the pictures that way. On a cell phone with struggling connection at the moment, lol.
Six Guardian beacons may point to a Guardian Station in space rather than planetary surface. This supports pre-Horizons accessibility theory, as Raxxla could be found via space station encounter without planetary landing mechanics.
What if 6 Guardian Beacons are pointing to a particular system? It could be a mere coincidence, but thought I'd share in case this theory has not been brought up. Click to expand... More plausible. Especially if they point to a "Guardian Station", since then everything is in space, which meshes with the idea you could find Raxxla before Horizons was in the game (ie: no surface landings, ergo "Raxxla" cannot be on the surface). Also maybe at launch the beacons and stations were simpler models (eg: generic nav beacons and Coriolis station), and they've been upgraded since.
Gamma Velorum (or nearby region) identified as the core of historical Guardian space, providing a potential geographic anchor for Guardian civilization origin and possible AI sanctuary location.
Is there any indication of where the guardians originated? Click to expand... Gamma Velorum (or near to it) seems to be the core of what was Guardian space. Or where their AI creation fled too? I would venture to guess that it's nigh story time to unravel the missing guardian civilization and speculate on where the AI has taken up residence... Click to expand... What makes you think they fled? also is there any creedence to Halperts comment about "...octagonal ships blotting out the stars..." reference in the kickstarter? Click to expand... Someone else can probably answer this one.
19 documented Guardian Beacons may form geometric patterns when plotted; six beacons could intersect to reveal search coordinates. The curved lines in Raxxla Codex icon may indicate pylon activation sequences needed to open beacon portals.
Curious if you bookmark the systems where Guardian Beacons have been found, they form any sort of shape, or better yet, can see if 6 of them intersect to an area where a search can begin. I believe there are 19 documented Beacons, at the moment. I have tried to fit a DBX inside the area where the Ancient Key pops out, but was either too big, or not quick enough to force my way in there. Now that I look back at the Raxxla Codex icon, the curved lines are in the way of those "bridges" almost like they indicate the pylons that have to be popped a few times for the beacon to actually "open".
Rotating upper elements with correct key sequence unlocks doors leading to portals toward Raxxla. Suggests a puzzle-based access mechanism at specific Guardian structure sites.
https://i.Please use another image host/wOeijly.png?1 it may not be as accurate as te original: Click to expand... Rotate 2 upper ones with the right key to unlock the doors to the portals towards Raxxla https://i.Please use another image host/Opc5Q5U.png Easy, peasy.
Guardian structure sites contain objects with paired doors (entrance/exit) and locking mechanism with ramps, positioned in front of bunker doors marked with triangles. Access appears to require specific approach through locked portal system.
33 actually 6 + 5 + 6 + 5 + 6 + 5 or 5 + 6 + 5 + 6 + 5 + 6 Note that the 6's are lined up with the "belt" symbol. Click to expand... Thanks. Need to check some old pictures to compare coincidence. Reasons behind my speculation: there is an object ("key to unlock bunker door") with 2 doors (lets imagine 1 enter and 1 exit) with a lock right in-front of Guardian "bunker" at some Guardian structure sites. Orientation looks like one need to pass through the both doors with small ramps (see picture above for the lock) to step right in-front of the "bunker" door with a triangle on it. Will dig out the picture of the scene. [IMG]https://i.Please use another image host/Rh7ddXi.jpg[/IMG]
Guardian exiles/constructs identified as primary candidates for Raxxla's builders based on recurring Raxxla-adjacent design elements in Guardian content additions.
The Guardian exciles/constructs are my no.1 candidate for Raxxla builders to. Everything time they add some new stuff there, something has a little Raxxla ring to it Click to expand... Yep! Although I kinda hope that it isn't them, and it all just remains a mystery!
The Raxxla icon hexagon contains two distinct triangles (5-dash sides and 6-dash sides) that fold into 3-sided pyramids. When inverted, these pyramids may form part of the Talmor Lens structure, suggesting geometric encoding in the official icon.
I think a lot of you have become far too obsessed with this new "Raxxla Icon" revealed in last week's live stream. Over-analyzing it in search of some hidden meaning, incorporating it in your avatars, etc, etc, etc. It's probably just a placeholder graphic with no intrinsic meaning. Certainly not something to invest time speculating about. ...incidentally the number of dashes that form the body of the hexagon structure form two separate triangles; the sides numbering five dashes being one triangle and the second one being the three sides marked with six dashes. You can fold these two objects into separate three-sided pyramids which, if inverted, could form a part of the Talmor Lens.
In-game Vela Pulsar age is 2 million years old, matching the Guardian civilization timeline, while real-world Vela Pulsar is only 11,000 years old. This unusual alignment suggests intentional developer connection to Guardian lore. Located just under 1,000 ly from Sol.
May as well drop in a few things. Vela Dark is part of the remnant of the Vela SN. IRL, the Vela Pulsar is just over 11,000 yrs old, see https://phys.org/news/2016-02-glitching-vela-pulsar.amp In game, the age of the Vela Pulsar is 2 MYrs. (See https://www.edsm.net/en/system/bodies/id/491743/name/Vela+Pulsar ) Which is quite an odd discrepancy, especially given that the Vela Pulsar is right in the thick of the Guardian bubble, and the time the Guardians were around was 2 MYrs ago. The Vela Pulsar is just under 1,000 ly from Sol.
Vela region identified as strong candidate for Raxxla location. Mars relic connection may point to Guardian involvement, with Raxxla symbol resembling stylized Guardian ruins. Vela Pulsar is a prominent spiraling star in the region.
May as well drop in a few things. Vela Dark is part of the remnant of the Vela SN. IRL, the Vela Pulsar is just over 11,000 yrs old, see https://phys.org/news/2016-02-glitching-vela-pulsar.amp In game, the age of the Vela Pulsar is 2 MYrs. (See https://www.edsm.net/en/system/bodies/id/491743/name/Vela+Pulsar ) Which is quite an odd discrepancy, especially given that the Vela Pulsar is right in the thick of the Guardian bubble, and the time the Guardians were around was 2 MYrs ago. The Vela Pulsar is just under 1,000 ly from Sol. Click to expand... The age of the pulsar might be from star formation, not from the SN. Vela is still a great candidate region. Spoiler I think the Mars relic connection also migth point to Guardian invovement. The Raxxla symbol with circles/circle s...
Wolf-Rayet stars exist in ED and are hard to detect in galaxy map unless heavily zoomed. Their properties could relate to Guardian technology, as Guardians may have had wider visual spectra than humans.
The 'normal' way to detect exotic stars, would be to use indirect observation. Same way we find comets in in ED. Objects orbiting something that isn't there. Gravity wave detection is the other method that scientists hope will help, in the future. Another object type that actually exist in ED and has relevant properties, is Wolf-Rayet planetary nebulae. These are hard to see in the galmap(like all planetary nebulae), until you zoom all the way inn. Then they light up very brightly. List of RL examples(some can be found in ED): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf–Rayet_star#Examples Wolf-Rayet stars could possibly be a Guardian connection as well. Guardians had a far wider visual specter than we have. That would probably not have evolved, unless there was a use for it. Gama Velorum(Regor)...
Both Raxxla and Dark Wheel symbols contain isometric cube elements matching patterns engraved in Guardian structures, suggesting symbolic connection to alien architecture.
Mental note of little use: both Raxxla and DW symbols possesses elements of isometric cube and by coincidence that pattern is engraved in guardians structures. Kinda like Spoiler Note: if you stare at this for some time, it will change directions. In mind only.
Raxxla may be a Guardian world or potentially the Guardian homeworld. Guardian ruins appear on 'unremarkable moons' and new discoveries continue post-3.3 with FSS scanning tools. Shape of Guardian ruins and associated maps may contain location clues.
I’d add that although Raxxla is likely to be in the place it’s always been since beta, we shouldn’t assume that it is as it’s been since the beginning. The zurara evolved along with the new tech implemented in game prior to its discovery. So perhaps Raxxla was an “unremarkable moon” durning beta and prior to Horizons. But it could have been sunstantially added to since then. Or even revised. Perhaps interaction with it (if there is/was any) was via an orbital station in beta and before horizons but since then that could have been amended to be surface artifacts/stations/ruins etc. Click to expand... Since I'm late to the party, I'm sure I'm rehashing "old news", but it would not surprise me at all if Raxxla is a Guardian world, perhaps even the Guardian home world. This relates to your ...
Guardian ruins' shapes and associated maps may contain directional or coordinate clues to Raxxla. Since Guardians are one of two known sentient alien races alongside unknowns, their connection to Raxxla alien artifacts warrants investigation.
Since I'm late to the party, I'm sure I'm rehashing "old news", but it would not surprise me at all if Raxxla is a Guardian world, perhaps even the Guardian home world. This relates to your comment since many Guardian ruins are on "unremarkable moons", but with the new exploration tools, they are easier to find in a system now, with new ones being discovered since 3.3 dropped. I have found "things" in previously-discovered but not mapped systems, so I'm using the FSS to full effect in any system (in my current search sphere) that hints of interesting possibilities. Click to expand... I’ve wondered myself if the gaurdian stuff may hold a clue. Raxxla has alien stuff on it and the guardians are one of but two known sentient alien races in ED. The shape of their ruins (and the map that ...
Guardian ruins may incorporate deliberate symbolic design beyond aesthetics, potentially functioning as maps of their home system. The 4D-inspired architectural design could encode location clues and serve as templates for planting in-game locations.
I’ve wondered myself if the gaurdian stuff may hold a clue. Raxxla has alien stuff on it and the guardians are one of but two known sentient alien races in ED. The shape of their ruins (and the map that represented them) has always been of interest to me. There seems to be something more deleiberate to its design other than its “cool alien looking”. The design certainly seems to incorporate symbols we’ve seen in maps before, could be that their ruins are a map of their home system and has clues about how to find it. Click to expand... Guardian AI tech could fit into Raxxla story - ancient alien technology. I also suspect of reusing that design for planting locations in the game. The problem here is that the design of Guardians art and architecture is inspired from 4D perspective (n...
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